[Peakoil] The collapse of the USSR as a foretaste of collapse in the USA?

[Adrian Whitehead]

I think they might be preapring in a different way.

Friday night before Saturdays G20 action the police raided two squats in
Melbounre, one the offical G20 squat, the second a long term fezza sqaut.
This was equalivant of poking a stick into a bee hive, making the bees angry
and I would suggest resulted in some of the negative shit that went down on
Saturday (though where I was it had a pretty relaxed atmosphere - the
postest had split into two). On Sunday plain cloths police were doing snatch
and grabs off the street on people who were comign and going from a satelite
conference held at RMIT. Very Stasi.

On 19 Nov 2006 03:15:30 -0000, Alex P <alex-po at trevbus.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks Keith,
>
> I recall Orlov's essays on FTW mentioned a few advantages the USA had over
> the USSR, one of which was people being kinder to complete strangers (as
> long as they were of the same race and class)
>
> However this is absent from the April 2006 presentation so he is now
> basically saying there is no reason for hoping the US will do better than
> the USSR, actually much much worse.
>
> The bit at the end perversely advocating useless boondoggles is
> interesting
> to say the least.
>
> Is Australian government as useless as US government? I do detect amazing
> lethargy and inertia in our political leaders and media, I don't know if
> it
> is inherent in Australia itself, or whether it is because our system of
> government and media has always slavishly taken its lead from the
> happenings
> in the wider anglo-sphere, which is currently lethargic, ossified and
> "ideologicaly hamstrung".
>
> There are exceptions such as the Senate oil inquiry of course.
>
> Alex
> O4O4873828
>
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>
> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:54:42 +1100, Keith Thomas <keith at evfit.com> wrote :
>
> > If the end of cheap oil precipitates or coincides with an economic
> > collapse, what will it look like?
> >
> > Dmitry Orlov visited the USSR during and after its collapse and remarks
> > on the parallels between the USSR then and the USA today.
> >
> > Here are the notes from his address in April 2006 in New York:
> >
> > http://www.cluborlov.com/ClubOrlov/ConfSlides/index.html
> >
> > If you want more detail, there are long articles on the From the
> > Wilderness site, but this site is expected to close or be reduced in
> > size shortly, so catch them now while they are still available in their
> > full form:
> >
> > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
> > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/
> > 062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml
> > http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/
> > 071805_soviet_lessons_part3.shtml
> >
> > Be sure to get the three articles (about 15,600 words). They are
> > nowhere else on the web..
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Keith Thomas
> > www.evfit.com
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
>
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