I think they might be preapring in a different way.<br><br>Friday night before Saturdays G20 action the police raided two squats in Melbounre, one the offical G20 squat, the second a long term fezza sqaut. This was equalivant of poking a stick into a bee hive, making the bees angry and I would suggest resulted in some of the negative shit that went down on Saturday (though where I was it had a pretty relaxed atmosphere - the postest had split into two). On Sunday plain cloths police were doing snatch and grabs off the street on people who were comign and going from a satelite conference held at RMIT. Very Stasi.
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 19 Nov 2006 03:15:30 -0000, <b class="gmail_sendername">Alex P</b> <<a href="mailto:alex-po@trevbus.org">alex-po@trevbus.org</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks Keith,<br><br>I recall Orlov's essays on FTW mentioned a few advantages the USA had over<br>the USSR, one of which was people being kinder to complete strangers (as<br>long as they were of the same race and class)<br>
<br>However this is absent from the April 2006 presentation so he is now<br>basically saying there is no reason for hoping the US will do better than<br>the USSR, actually much much worse.<br><br>The bit at the end perversely advocating useless boondoggles is interesting
<br>to say the least.<br><br>Is Australian government as useless as US government? I do detect amazing<br>lethargy and inertia in our political leaders and media, I don't know if it<br>is inherent in Australia itself, or whether it is because our system of
<br>government and media has always slavishly taken its lead from the happenings<br>in the wider anglo-sphere, which is currently lethargic, ossified and<br>"ideologicaly hamstrung".<br><br>There are exceptions such as the Senate oil inquiry of course.
<br><br>Alex<br>O4O4873828<br><br>ACT Peak Oil<br><a href="http://act-peakoil.org">http://act-peakoil.org</a><br><br>On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 11:54:42 +1100, Keith Thomas <<a href="mailto:keith@evfit.com">keith@evfit.com</a>
> wrote :<br><br>> If the end of cheap oil precipitates or coincides with an economic<br>> collapse, what will it look like?<br>><br>> Dmitry Orlov visited the USSR during and after its collapse and remarks
<br>> on the parallels between the USSR then and the USA today.<br>><br>> Here are the notes from his address in April 2006 in New York:<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.cluborlov.com/ClubOrlov/ConfSlides/index.html">
http://www.cluborlov.com/ClubOrlov/ConfSlides/index.html</a><br>><br>> If you want more detail, there are long articles on the From the<br>> Wilderness site, but this site is expected to close or be reduced in<br>
> size shortly, so catch them now while they are still available in their<br>> full form:<br>><br>> <a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml
</a><br>> <a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/</a><br>> 062805_soviet_lessons_part2.shtml<br>> <a href="http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/">http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/
</a><br>> 071805_soviet_lessons_part3.shtml<br>><br>> Be sure to get the three articles (about 15,600 words). They are<br>> nowhere else on the web..<br>> --------------------------------------------<br>> Keith Thomas
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