[Peakoil] Senate inquiry submission

Keith Thomas keith at evfit.com
Thu Jan 19 22:40:09 EST 2006


Isn't the core of our message two points:

Wake up, this is serious.

Do something - now. ( by that we mean something that will begin having  
significant affects on the behaviour of the majority of Australians  
within six months.)

(Mind you, peak oil not as serious as climate change - see today's  
Canberra Times, where a scientist has finally been bold enough to spell  
out what he fears. Note too that the overshoot David refers to extends  
well beyond the single commodity oil.)
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Keith Thomas
www.evfit.com
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On 19/01/2006, at 5:13 PM, David Jorm wrote:

> Executive Summary of Collapse and Diamond's work in general:
>
> Geographic conditions to a great extent dictate the success or failure  
> of a human society, but the way that society deals with its crises  
> make the difference between long term success or failure.
>
> The point to make, the way I see it, is that Australia is a very  
> wealthy and prosperous society, but this is no iron clad gauranetee of  
> our long term success. Equally prosperous societies have collapsed as  
> a result of their failure to respond to resource limitations properly.  
> Population Dynamics state that the approach to a physical resource  
> limit take three forms. First, sigmoid, or S shaped, where the growth  
> in population, or in our case, industrial activity, declines gradually  
> as it approaches a stable level permitted by the resource limitation.  
> Obviously we have not done this in the case of peak oil. Second,  
> overshoot and oscillation, where the limit is overshot slightly, a  
> mini-collapse follows, but we eventually level out around the level  
> permitted by the limit. Finally, overshoot and collapse, which is the  
> worst case scenario we all fear with regards to peak oil.
>
> On 19 Jan 2006 05:10:28 -0000, Alex P <alex-po at trevbus.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:40:35 +1100 (EST), "POLLARD,Sandy"
>> <Sandy.POLLARD at dewr.gov.au> wrote :
>>
>> > On a slightly different note, is anyone aware of who (among the  
>> various
>> > Australian PO and other groups) is working on a formal submission  
>> to the
>> > Senate Inquiry? (See link below)
>> >
>> >  http://www.aph.gov.au/Senate/committee/rrat_ctte/oil_supply/ 
>> info.htm
>> >
>> > Submission deadline is 24 February.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sandy Pollard
>> >
>>
>> I've started reading Jared Diamond's "Collapse" with a view to seeing  
>> if
>> any of the ideas would be useful in a submission.
>>
>> What would be the main points to make? And are there any subtle  
>> messages we
>> need to weave into the text so they will be taken on board without  
>> even
>> being consciously registered?
>>
>> Alex
>> O4O4873828
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