<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I agree with the rest of the thread. </div><div><br></div><div>Now is the time for 'ordinary' people to take the lead. And people around the world have begun doing just this. </div><div><br></div><div>There are a couple of quick things we can do right now to help build this momentum for change:</div><div><br></div><div>1 Join in the People's Climate March. This is happening all over the world. <span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">From here on in, we're all in! Join me </span><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://4" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="calendar-event" x-apple-data-detectors-result="4" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392);">at noon 29 Nov</a><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"> for #PeoplesClimate March #Canberra </span><a href="http://bit.ly/1NGasYy" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="5" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392);">bit.ly/1NGasYy</a><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"> The aim is to say to national decision makers: 'The people of the world want action on climate change. We are taking action on climate change. Follow our lead.' And turning out in huge numbers and huge diversity will give them permission to go further (eg at Paris climate talks) than they have publicly stated before. </span></div><div><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><br></span></div><div><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">2 Join the Transition Towns movement. Initially developed to deal with peak oil, it is a proven way for communities to work out their own way of transitioning to a better future. The Canberra community has now joined the movement, as Transition Canberra. Further details at </span><a href="http://www.see-change.org.au/canberra-transition-town/">http://www.see-change.org.au/canberra-transition-town/</a>. <span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">Perhaps ACT Peak Oil could work on an oil descent plan for Canberra. </span></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7019607843137254)"><span style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7019607843137254)"><span style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">To quote:</span></font></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7019607843137254)"><span style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;">If not us, who? If not now, when?</span></font></div><div><font color="rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.7019607843137254)"><span style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392); text-decoration: -webkit-letterpress;"><br></span></font><br>Gill<div>Sent from my solar-powered phone</div><div>Join me in the People's Climate March</div><div>Canberra: 29 November, 12 noon, Parliament House lawns</div></div><div><br>On 12 Nov 2015, at 12:07 pm, Antony Broughton Barry <<a href="mailto:antonybbarry@me.com">antonybbarry@me.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 12 Nov 2015, at 11:05 am, Jenny Goldie <<a href="mailto:jenny.goldie@optusnet.com.au">jenny.goldie@optusnet.com.au</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But we have to look at it even more holistically. How many people can the world support at a standard of living where their basic needs are supplied, given existing technologies, and without degrading the Earth and compromising the other species we share it with? Answer: Not as many as we have today and not nearly as many as the UN projections for 2050 ans 2100. Probably less than two billion even with the best of technology. We have to reduce population (as Japan is successfully doing), keep most of fossil fuels in the ground and work flat out to make the transition to a renewable economy.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>I completely agree. Two billion tops. We either do it deliberately or the it will be thrust upon us the hard way in a horrific collapse from which a high level civilization may not reemerge seeing as most of the easily extracted rich mineral resources have been dissipated and mixed into artifacts, scattered waste dumps, general pollution or dissolved into the oceans.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Tony</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Peakoil discussion list run by ACT Peak Oil Inc.</span><br><span>We also have a low volume announcement list. 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