EV's work well with a renewable based grid and smart meters.<br><br>When the renewables are pumping all the EV's at home and in carparks start recharging. When they are slowing down they wait.<br><br>BZE is starting to do the near zero emission transport solution and work out how much extra wind turbines we will need to run the expanded rail systems and the EV and the plug in hybrids - probably wont be out till next year but keep your fingers crossed.
<br><br>We have already done the calculations for stationary energy in Vic costing about 12 billion to go near zero.<br><br>Adrian<br><br><br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/24/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Keith Thomas</b> <<a href="mailto:keith@evfit.com">keith@evfit.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">OK, you have seen this is from me, so you can guess what I'm going to
<br>say, but I'll say it.<br><br>If your electric car is to be a long-term prospect, where is the<br>electricity coming from - nuclear power? The point at which peak oil<br>and climate change will be felt sharply in the west will be in
<br>electricity generation. Note too that replacing cars with more<br>efficient cars is a net loser. Big time. Running existing current cars<br>more efficiently and banning new car making - even electric cars -<br>would yield actual savings.
<br><br>If peak oil is a prospect, where's the asphalt coming from for the<br>roads?<br><br>You guys are still at the 'bargaining' stage of grief about both peak<br>oil and climate change. Read William Catton's "Overshoot". You can see
<br>my review of this book at:<br><br><a href="http://www.natsoc.org.au/html/publications/Journal%2006-1_Overshoot.html">http://www.natsoc.org.au/html/publications/Journal%2006-1_Overshoot.html</a><br><br>Just learn to do without a car.
<br>--------------------------------------------<br>Keith Thomas<br><a href="http://www.evfit.com">www.evfit.com</a><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On 24/11/2006, at 4:40 PM, POLLARD,Sandy wrote:<br><br>
> Well said, Leigh. I can feel a T-shirt/poster slogan coming on:<br>><br>> "I'd rather be run over by an electric car than Climate Change"<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: peakoil-bounces+sandy.pollard=
<a href="mailto:dewr.gov.au@act-peakoil.org">dewr.gov.au@act-peakoil.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:peakoil-bounces+sandy.pollard=dewr.gov.au@act-peakoil.org">peakoil-bounces+sandy.pollard=dewr.gov.au@act-peakoil.org
</a>] On<br>> Behalf Of <a href="mailto:leigh.kite@medicareaustralia.gov.au">leigh.kite@medicareaustralia.gov.au</a><br>> Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:17 PM<br>> To: <a href="mailto:peakoil@act-peakoil.org">
peakoil@act-peakoil.org</a><br>> Subject: Re: [Peakoil] Reva electric car<br>><br>><br>><br>> Hmmmm, two comments: -<br>><br>> 1) Government is making a weak half-hearted effort in the "allowing
<br>> it to happen" category, when what they really need to do is actively<br>> support it.<br>><br>> 2) Climate change is much more dangerous than electric cars. Once<br>> again, if safety is such an issue, the government should be getting
<br>> behind it and engaging this more directly.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Leigh<br>><br>><br>><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Peakoil mailing list<br>You are subscribed as
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